Sunday, May 22, 2011

On Marriage Equality and the State

To follow up on Bo’s comments, I’d like to offer some of my own thoughts on marriage as a social institution and, more specifically, the extension of federal marriage benefits to same-sex couples.

As someone who’s deeply sympathetic the idea of marriage equality, but generally skeptical of the social necessity of state-sponsored matrimony, I find myself in a bit of an intellectual quandary. Arguments in favor of same-sex marriage often rest on the assumption that marriage is a social good that needs to be subsidized by the federal government. This position—which we may call the conservative argument in favor of gay marriage—is powerfully articulated by Andrew Sullivan in his book Virtually Normal. Sullivan writes:

Marriage provides an anchor, if an arbitrary and often weak one, in the maelstrom of sex and relationships to which we are all prone. It provides a mechanism for emotional stability and economic security. We rig the law in its favor not because we disparage all forms of relationships other than the nuclear family, but because we recognize that not to promote marriage would be to ask too much of human virtue . . . . A law institutionalizing gay marriage would merely reinforce a healthy trend. Burkean conservatives should warm to the idea.
This case is pretty compelling if you accept the premise that marriage generates positive externalities not clearly associated with other kinds of social arrangements. But that viewpoint doesn’t generally square with liberal orthodoxy on nontraditional households. To suggest that marriage deserves special status is to imply that alternatives to marriage—like cohabitation—are somehow less socially desirable, even if we choose not to "disparage" them. That’s not necessarily wrong, but it’s a difficult sell to someone who believes that all social arrangements are equally valid and the state has no place in promoting one kind of lifestyle over another. For a marriage skeptic like me, Sullivan’s argument simply isn’t very convincing.

But there are other arguments in favor of same-sex matrimony that don’t require such a positive reading of marriage as a social institution. In fact, some common points offered by advocates for marriage equality actually seem to provide a persuasive narrative for eliminating state-sponsored marriage. In response to traditionalist claims about the “stabilizing” effects of heterosexual marriage, some defenders of same-sex matrimony point to statistics on the steadily increasing rates of separation and divorce among heterosexual spouses. The obvious implication is that there is nothing particularly stabilizing about an arrangement into which people can so frivolously enter and exit.

If this is true, though, what does society gain by expanding such a weak institution? There are several possible answers to this question, but I’d like to consider the one that I find most legitimate. We may call this the principled pragmatist’s argument in favor of marriage equality.

It goes something like this: Without a realistic chance of eliminating federal marriage benefits, basic equality demands that we allow gay couples access to this institution. The key difference between heterosexual couples and homosexual couples is the ability to produce children who are biologically related to both parents. This distinction may have social relevance, but with an increasing number of married couples choosing not to have children, it no longer provides sufficient grounds upon which to limit marriage benefits to heterosexual couples.

For someone who’s not convinced of the social advantages of state-sponsored matrimony, this is much more appealing than the conservative position. But accepting the principled pragmatist’s argument naturally requires us to acknowledge other kinds of arguments that may make people a bit more uncomfortable.

If equality means that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry, and marriage has little to do with children who are biologically related to their parents, then why shouldn’t siblings also be allowed to marry? Genetic concerns no longer provide a compelling basis upon which to exclude sibling couples from the institution of marriage. (Even if this weren’t the case, there are important genetic concerns for other kinds of couples, but let's save this issue for another post.)

The argument that sibling couples have “alternatives” that are unavailable to gay couples also strikes me as unconvincing. Certainly, the inherent nature of homosexuality makes it different from incest in important ways. But the idea that siblings should be denied equality simply because they have other options is eerily reminiscent of claims made by anti-miscegenation advocates, who insisted that equality only necessitates a right to wed a person of the same race, rather than a person of the individual’s choosing. To suggest that siblings who love each other have “alternative” marital options is to apply similar logic: We all have an equal right to marry someone who is not an immediate family member, so we need not concern ourselves with the rights of sibling couples.

While most Americans today recognize that limiting a person’s ability to marry outside his or her race does not represent true equality, there seems to be enormous cognitive dissonance when this argument is applied to sibling relationships.

I understand that many are offended by allusions to incest in the context of a discussion over gay marriage. But I think it is incumbent upon those of us who see equality—rather than social stability—as the central issue in the debate over same-sex matrimony to give more serious consideration to other kinds of marriage equality arguments.

This is an area were reasonable people may disagree, and I admit that my thoughts here are not as developed as I’d like. For those of you who support or oppose gay marriage for different reasons—or just think my position is ridiculous—I’m curious to hear your opinions.

My goal here is to promote conversation, not to offer the final word on marriage equality.

-Jeremy

13 comments:

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  2. I’m sympathetic to a lot of the points you make, and probably less of an advocate for the equal rights of siblings than Jeremy is. But I think the point he’s making on whole is something I understand and generally support. The arguments for gay marriage fundamentally change the way we, as a society, are treating marriage. This is not necessarily a bad thing. But if we’re not willing to examine the strong, intuitive, response that many people have to the issue of equal rights for homosexual persons in regards to marriage we’re going to see outcomes that we could have anticipated but didn’t.
    I want to address the idea of sibling marriage generally and then make a side point. By bringing up what essentially amounts to a thought experiment I think Jeremy has used a taboo to make a pretty subtle point. I would posit that people aren’t revolted by sibling relationships because they so often involve coercion. Rather we, as humans, have a long sociological habit of reinforcing the impulses that genetics give us. One of these impulses is that you really shouldn’t procreate with your siblings.
    This same ostracizing happened to homosexuals as well. Although my guess is that genetic impulses were not as important a part of this taboo as a myriad of other societal factors. By admitting that society is overcoming a taboo by allowing gay marriage, it definitionally means that we are changing the institution. To think that marriage would remain unchanged is wishful thinking, and the incest/miscegenation comparison is an important way to show this.
    For your other points you’ve spoken as an advocate (I certainly do not expect the people in favor of gay marriage to publicize Jeremy’s incest extrapolation) and someone who wants homosexuals to have basic rights in regards their place in society and rights with their partners. Jeremy and I are both pro gay marriage (if marriage is to be legal) because those are the points we sympathize with. This post was really trying to challenge people to take a step away from an ideological standpoint, and understand why this is a pretty complicated issue.
    As a quick close, I think that Jeremy’s point about sibling marriage stands even with the idea that these can be abusive relationships. To hold individual couples responsible for the behavior of others seems an onerous task for a state to be responsible for. Because men in homosexual relationships cheat more than straight couples or women in same sex relationships does this mean that individual couples should be judged on this bias? Finally, I’m inclined to believe that the legalizing of sibling marriage would probably not increase coercion among siblings. The key point being that both parties would be consenting adults. So I’m not sure why if that stands up.

    -Bo

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  3. (Reposted by us as blogger hates Kat)

    So, presuming you've read the Saletan piece on the legal arguments for incest, I'm just going to roll into this (also blogspot ate my first comment so this will be shorter and less coherent).

    1) While most homosexual couples are not abusive, provably, most incest is child sex abuse. In fact, sibling incest is the highest form of familial sex abuse. So, there is a demonstrable Social Bad related to incest that spans beyond high rates of birth defects.

    2) Okay but you meant consensual adult sibling relationships. Well, if you could figure out whether or not it was the product of some abusive familial dynamics or coercion, then sure. It should be legal, and it is in the Netherlands, though counseling is required (I believe) if you're found out. Probably because most of the time sibling sex isn't particularly consensual, which is why this argument is so straw-man to me.

    3) So aside from issues that stem a lot from social stigma, there's a lot less Social Bad going on in consensual homosexual relationships. There's also a large contingent of activists, who are already fighting against ingrained social norms for their particular equality. Is bringing what essentially boils down to a thought exercise about incest into a debate that affects a great population worth the damage it will do to the cause of gay marriage? Is it ethical to expect gay marriage proponents to take on the case of wide spread marriage equality in regards to incest or polyamory?

    4) I think you discount a lot of the Social Good that marriage does for the creation of legally recognized family units. While marriage isn't only about the creation of families, marriage recognition would make it easier for gay couples to say, adopt or not lose their foster kids or even maintain a stable two person family (see: Scott Walker trying to strip gay partners' hospital visitation rights).

    5) I'll grant you this is a little 'master's house, master's tools' as it would put the expectation of sibling marriage equality on the oppressed class of sibling couples, but. I'm not really sure there's such a wide spread case of this actually occurring that there needs to be legal precedent (see the Germany case of siblings who had been estranged and then wished to wed; I don't think there's similar case law in America but I could be wrong).

    - Kat

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  4. There are two primary issues when considering adult sibling relationships: genetics and consent. We seem to agree that the first issue is irrelevant if marriage isn’t about promoting families with children who are biologically related to both parents.

    The second issue is a little more complicated, but I think we need to assume that adults can consent to marriage, even if those adults were brought up together as children. The fact that many jurisdictions allow marriage between step-siblings who were raised in the same household indicates that fear of consanguinity, not coercion, is the larger influence behind this social taboo. Unless you want to argue that biology makes sibling relationships more prone to abuse, I think it’s problematic to say that only blood relations should have to prove non-coercion before they enter into marriage.

    Many other factors could also lead to an abusive or coercive marriage, but we generally assume that adults can make their own choices. We don’t screen couples for differences in terms of age, income, intelligence, social status, or anything else that could potentially complicate the power dynamics of the marriage.

    . . .

    I don’t think that it’s incumbent upon defenders of same-sex marriage to advocate for sibling marriage. But I’ll admit I’m a little appalled when I see people fighting for one form of marriage equality so quickly dismiss another form of marriage equality by invoking social taboos.

    By rejecting some of the arguments in favor of sibling marriage, I actually think advocates for same-sex marriage weaken their position. But even if that’s not the case, to suggest we shouldn’t talk about sibling marriage because it could damage the cause of gay marriage is to implicitly place the interests of a larger oppressed class over a smaller oppressed class. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with that, but it just seems strange to be making that kind of utilitarian trade-off in the context of a debate about equal rights.

    -Jeremy

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  5. Theoretically I agree with the position that the state has no business sanctioning and granting advantages to this type of contract. It is, of course, even worse if these advantages are granted only to some but not all.

    As a practical matter, I support gay marriage as a matter of equity and am glad I do not have to consider sibling marriage.

    Since I am new to this blog I thought I'd take the opportunity to post something somewhat off topic that illustrates a hobby of mine which is collecting GBM's, Generally Believed Myths. The only justification for it here is that it shows some of the very real difficulties one gets into with state sanctioned marriage.

    In 2000 we were told there was a "marriage penalty," that is the group of married people paid more tax than they would have if they had been allowed to file as single. It is true that some couples did pay more, but others paid less and these two groups canceled out. Because of this GBM, bad legislation was passed that did not solve the problem that some married couples paid a penalty while some got a bonus, but did take a situation that was fair between married and single folk, and turned it into one that was unfair to singles. It is also annoying that there is an obvious simple solution that has a side benefit of simplifying the tax code, namely have everyone file as single.

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  6. Len,

    I think you're right in that the government creates essentially Goldberg machines to deal with problems that seems to have a simple solution (everyone files singly, life is fair).

    I think it's important to make ourselves confront ideas like sibling marriage because it moves us beyond simple advocacy. The reason homosexual people should have rights is not because it has become less uncomfortable to the majority of Americans (this is a really bad standard as at different times in history the majority of Americans have believed some awful things). Rather homosexuals ought have these rights because it is logically consistent and fair within the framework of how we view marriage and its role in our government. To only make appeals to what people feel comfortable with (or to apply equity narrowly only to gay marriage) is treacherous and examining the sibling marriage argument might help us avoid some of the failings that come with that kind of thought.

    -Bo

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  7. Bo,

    I think you missed my distinction between theory and practice. ("In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they are not." - A. Einstein.)

    I would like to see government get out of the marriage business. Only because I believe this is impossible, do I support gay marriage.

    In both cases, sibling marrriage is irrelevant. If government has nothing to do with any kind of marriage this is obvious. As a practical matter in the US, it is a waste of time to talk about sibling marriage. It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime or in yours.

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  8. Len,

    We both agree that, in an ideal world, the federal government would have no involvement in marriage.

    We also agree that it's practically impossible to eliminate state-sponsored marriage. But it simply doesn’t follow that we should expand the institution to gay couples unless you offer some sort of principled argument in favor of that expansion. Once you make that principle argument, I think you have to acknowledge its implications.

    So, the real question is: Given the status quo, on what basis do you support gay marriage?

    If you believe equality or consistency demands that we allow gay couples to marry, then you can't say sibling marriage is practically irrelevant. You're no longer making a practical argument; you're arguing from principle.

    -Jeremy

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  9. Good point Jeremy. I didn't make myself clear when I said I supported gay marriage as a "matter of equity ." I am not "arguing from principle". Why do I have to have a principled argument? I simply want to be as fair as possible. I don't have to consider sibling marriage because that is clearly not possible.

    If I were arguing from principle, I would want no government to have "involvement in marriage," i.e. my stand on gay marriage is unprincipled or at best an approximation to a principled argument, sort of like your position on lying to the airlines.

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  10. Let me try again. I want to extend the rights the government unfairly only extends to one man, one woman marriages to as many people as possible. If you believe this is principled, fine. In any case, sibling marriage need not be considered because it is not possible.

    Note that if the government were out of the marriage business, all people would have these rights.

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  11. Len,

    I may be misrepresenting your position, but I think that you're arguing we need not consider situations that are fundamentally unfair or inequitable if we suspect it's practically impossible to change these situations.

    I have a number of objections to this, but let me simply say that I don't think we can know with any strong degree of certainty what's possible. We're not omniscient.

    While it may be unlikely that siblings will be able to get married, it's certainly not definitionally impossible that there will be a dramatic changes in the social mindset over the next few decades. Saying that we need not address this particular inequity because it's unlikley to be corrected strikes me as kind of a flawed premise.

    -Jeremy

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  12. Shoud we also consider the possibility of the sun going nova tomorrow?

    Look, I have an absolute position. Get rid of the instituion of marriage. That covers all possibilities, but a practical position cannot. The best I can do is to consider those that do not have an extremely small probability, and I get to define extremely small.

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  13. On a personal level, I think that's fine. But it's worth pointing out that this post is largely about the argument that you don't want to consider.

    Let's say that you and I were debating women's suffrage in the late 1800s. You argued that it was fundamentally inequitable to restrict voting rights to men. I responded that I don't believe in democracy, so it's a moot point. But, either way, I don't have to engage with your argument because there's an extremely remote possibility that women will ever be allowed to vote. (And I get to define "remote.")

    Wouldn't that seem like kind of an intellectual copout? Why would I even engage you in the first place if I wasn't prepared to consider your argument?

    In the context of the debate over gay marriage, I think the question of sibiling relationships is relevant because it forces us to wrestle the logical implications of defining marriage in a particular way. I also think it matters practically because opponents of gay marriage continually make these kinds of comparisons.

    If you don't agree with either of those points, I can certainly respect that.

    -Jeremy

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